because what you do is nothing. i mean what happened was, they left, he didn't. and so he just stayed. >> his family, though, is no longer in iran? >> his immediate family has left iran also. >> how did he get them out? >> they left -- you can travel out of iran, you don't need an exit visa. i mean, that i know that the iran government prohibits certain people, particular people from traveling. but his family were able to travel. and they traveled, as they routinely had in the past, while he was away. >> the other aspect that i think is so fascinating to people is when you are a presidential photographer or videographer, you have unbelievable access to the national leader here. >> right. >> a little while ago we spoke to a former white house videographer, someone who is close to president obama, about the access he had. let's listen to that. >> look, you know, photographers and videographers, they put enormous amount of trust in us when it comes to world leader coverage. you know, because, you're not this fly on the wall like people think. you're actually part of a team.